ok all, i am loggin on in game and will start doing some pug pvp groups. i will be on until about 830 est (then the hubby wants to go out to our local bar). Even when i log off for the evening i encourage you all to keep up the pup pvping and see how we all work together as a team

Quote by Angelsilhouette

But the majority of voters chose Gore, and a greater majority of voters chose Obama. Both progressive forward thinking individuals. Gore, unfortunately, didn't get elected because it turned out that the majority of voters didn't really have a say; it was the government (the electoral college) who decided the winner.

Without the vote... Well... We would be something like a dictatorship or a monarchy. Like Saudi Arabia (Star Wars Appropriate Link) a nation who likes to believe that homosexuals should be stoned, burned or thrown from mountain tops. Maybe we'd be like the Soviet Union or pre US influence People's Republic of China.

Luckily for us, a large enough majority voted someone with the type of mindset to abolish the "Don't Ask Don't Tell" and allow gays to serve openly in our military. Without the vote, we'd likely have a government full of good ol' boys where the only change would come through revolt or a military coup.

I think you're right. The majority has spoken and 67% of them don't like "Stonewall Gaming Community".

We aren't a national government and we can be more flexible than that. We can listen to the majority and the minority and give both of them influence on decisions.

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Frankly I don't like any of the options in the "poll." They are either too formal, too generic, or intentionally humorously too specific. "Polls" also show that the majority of voters want to ban Gay Marriage. I'm personally glad a poll isn't a vote.

But the majority of voters chose Gore, and a greater majority of voters chose Obama. Both progressive forward thinking individuals. Gore, unfortunately, didn't get elected because it turned out that the majority of voters didn't really have a say; it was the government (the electoral college) who decided the winner.

Without the vote... Well... We would be something like a dictatorship or a monarchy. Like Saudi Arabia (Star Wars Appropriate Link) a nation who likes to believe that homosexuals should be stoned, burned or thrown from mountain tops. Maybe we'd be like the Soviet Union or pre US influence People's Republic of China.

Luckily for us, a large enough majority voted someone with the type of mindset to abolish the "Don't Ask Don't Tell" and allow gays to serve openly in our military. Without the vote, we'd likely have a government full of good ol' boys where the only change would come through revolt or a military coup.

Episode 513 - Voyager - "The Q and the Grey" - 11/27/1996

http://www.allstepisodes.com/megvid.php?n=4311

Q visits Voyager with a proposal for Janeway as civil war breaks out in the Q Continuum.

Enjoy!

Ill be on tonight on the Republic side. Count me in.

Quote by Justjon

I think we should call ourselves Stonewall MMO. Site would be stonewallmmo.com(yes it's available) and I made a rough sketch logo in Adobe Illustrator to show my idea of a logo =)

Nice work on the logo Jon. My only hesitation is on the iconography itself. The fist seems a bit aggressive or militaristic for a welcoming community. I know the games we play are filled with conflict, but I think the goal is to represent the community as a whole rather than the games we play.

Then again, I could be way off. Like Hal said, this isn't something we've ever discussed at the Officer level.

A lot of people have expressed their intrest. Tonight I'm doing a test run. Just logging on and doing a pug pvp group with whoever is on. After I see how the grouping and vent works in pvp I'll post more concrete times an days for pvp warfare.

Quote by Halish

Jon, did you create that logo completely youself? the hand and everything? I used to lead a guild which had "fist" in the title and our logo was a fist very much similar to that so naturally I love it!

I don't however like the name, it's not something that really rolls of the tongue. It also limits the guild into a smaller box than I thought "gaming" already did lol so naturally It's not my cup of tea... sorry!

Yeah I made the entire logo including the hand. I can understand I was thinking since mmo (massive multiplayer online) it's specific but also general. I was also thinking of it after the Analytics were posted because I started wondering of keywords people might use to find us. Stonewall and mmo popped into my head and I went with it lol.

Thanks for the compliment on the logo I figured it showed power and strength and symbolized what stonewall was all about.

This thread isn't and has never been an official decision making thread. It wasn't discussed by the officers before it was posted and it hasn't been discussed by the officers since.

This thread was just Nick trying to involve the membership in a discussion he would otherwise be having with his mirror. If you read Nick's original post you'll notice that there isn't a closing date and no where does he imply that the poll alone will show the final choice.

This topic has not been closed, the discussion is not over as long as somebody still wants to discuss it. No member has the right to decide when to place in full stop in an open discussion.

If people still have opinions to express, ideas to present or anything that they feel will add to this thread then they are welcome to bring it on. This is a discussion which has no immediate need for resolution because it involves the name that will hopefully last for many years across many games.

Anyway, back on topic...

Jon, did you create that logo completely youself? the hand and everything? I used to lead a guild which had "fist" in the title and our logo was a fist very much similar to that so naturally I love it!

I don't however like the name, it's not something that really rolls of the tongue. It also limits the guild into a smaller box than I thought "gaming" already did lol so naturally It's not my cup of tea... sorry!

Frankly I don't like any of the options in the "poll." They are either too formal, too generic, or intentionally humorously too specific. "Polls" also show that the majority of voters want to ban Gay Marriage. I'm personally glad a poll isn't a vote.

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I know this topic has gotten really quiet but I had an idea tonight and thought I'd share it. Since we are large group of people with one of the main common thing between us being gaming in a MMO world I think this fits.

I think we should call ourselves Stonewall MMO. Site would be stonewallmmo.com(yes it's available) and I made a rough sketch logo in Adobe Illustrator to show my idea of a logo =)

The membership has voiced their opinion via the poll. But it seems that the leadership doesn't like this option and will probably just pick something they like. As I've said before why do a poll if your not going to follow thru with the choice?

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so ... is there much interest in this?

I'm still interested but it seems that all the events are going belly up. Hopefully we will hear something on this today.

I know this topic has gotten really quiet but I had an idea tonight and thought I'd share it. Since we are large group of people with one of the main common thing between us being gaming in a MMO world I think this fits.

I think we should call ourselves Stonewall MMO. Site would be stonewallmmo.com(yes it's available) and I made a rough sketch logo in Adobe Illustrator to show my idea of a logo =)

The Analytics report for knightsofstonewall.com from January.

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Hell yeah I would love to know some places to hit up while I'll be there :)

so ... is there much interest in this?

I'd love to see someone from the guild go to the summit. I'd be happy to house whoever comes and show them around the town. I know all the best digs, eats and tourist-y things to do.

Would be good to add the +10 to all stats datacron to one of the future datacron events.

Video and some prerequisites below:

Acquire the MGGS you'll have to travel to Alderaan and buy it from a vendor in the Juran Mountains, south of King's Pass. Head southeast in the mountains until you find Outpost Talarn, continue down the road south to find the vendor. His coordinates are X:1885, Y:1091. Purchase the MGGS for 10,000 credits.

There is a secondary item that is useful but not necessary for everyone to have. This second item is a Corellian Museum Crystal found in Axial Park on Corellia. Head to X:684, Y:34 south of Coronet Zoo. Look for an open shipping crate tilted toward the wall, inside should be the Corellian Museum Crystal, just click it and you have it.

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Ohh know any good areas in Dallas? gonna be there in September.

Really kinda depends on what you consider "good". I can give ya some tips since I lived there for 7 years.

Ohh know any good areas in Dallas? gonna be there in September.