That's kinda mind-blowing. I assume they did more than just 2 crafting professions to get that much XP.

So many runes in my bank, I should just sell them..

Thanks so much... that was all very helpful!!!

I now have space in my bank again! (I had even plugged down $7.50 for an extra set of slots :blush: )

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For instance. A 5 year old may have a very mature reaction to something. That was not a natural occurrence in my opinion. It was the parents and what was taught to the child. How was that child's problem solving skills developed in the first place.

I realize this was a statement and not a question but I'm going to add the ? to the end of your statement and explain:

Even though parents do try to instill maturity in their kids. I don't believe "maturity" in anyone is so much a taught and learned behavior as your statement suggests. It's my opinion that is is a natural gift...and a deep or shallow well this person draws from to react or take no action at all.

This is why some people or even kids have a loosely measurable maturity level that would seem to fill up an 18-wheeler were as some others maturity levels might not fill a coffee cup. Parents teaching and guidance (or other influences) are actually the polish and shaping on something that is already there... a base formula if you wish...that is already there in abundance or barely at all.

So for example...your five year old comes home from school and recounts that a bully was picking on some smaller weaker kid and your child intervened and not only confronted the bully physically to stop him from what he was doing but he also reported the entire matter to lets say a guidance counselor. You the parent have taught your child that fighting is wrong and mind your own business...and yet he/she disregards your teaching and influence and did what he did to stop the bully.

Under these conditions and similar other ones...one has to ask...where did this level of maturity come from? When all things he/she was taught would have dictated a very different reaction or inaction from this child.

These particular set of circumstances are called, "surprises!" Where you would turn around as the parent and think or say..."WoW! I didn't know my kid had that in him / her!"

I absolutely respect that many of you want to believe that mental maturity (not physical) maturity literally comes from long life experiences and teaching from other people, family and friends and the like...but a very basic core foundation of maturity is something you already have.....ALL the rest that comes after your ability to analyze any given situation...is more and more polish and shaping on a very unique and natural ability..that will play out circumstantially as your life gets longer.

Then all hell will break loose (sometimes) when perspective by other people enters the picture...and the reason that happens is all too obvious. Different strokes for different folks.

Quote by mcavey

... I also think the definition itself varies based on the perspective/person as it involves some degree of judgment. What’s “appropriate” varies. IE- if someone stands up against a bigot - that action may be viewed as mature by one person because "(s)he stood up for what's 'right' – (s)he was mature"; however another person might find the action immature because ignoring the bigot was a more appropriate and mature action.

You are 100% correct my friend! :)

Episode 726 - Enterprise - "Divergence" - 02/25/2005

http://www.allstepisodes.com/megvid.php?n=5416

With the Columbia's help, the Enterprise crew grapples with sabotage to their ship as they pursue the truth behind the kidnapping of Phlox. The disease is cured, but genetic mutations will make many Klingons appear human-like for generations to come.

Enjoy!

All the reasons everyone has already given are good for keeping everything "united."

Unity! Keep us all united :)

Very interesting question and some great responses. For me, maturity in the simplest sense means reaching the end of a cycle, or maybe something more along the lines of developing fully. As human beings, I don't we'll ever reach that point in an absolute sense-were constantly learning and changing based on our experiences. I also think the definition itself varies based on the perspective/person as it involves some degree of judgment. What’s “appropriate” varies. IE- if someone stands up against a bigot - that action may be viewed as mature by one person because "(s)he stood up for what's 'right' – (s)he was mature"; however another person might find the action immature because ignoring the bigot was a more appropriate and mature action.

Quote by Lost.7805

So I made the post and didnt answer the question myself. I find maturity to be a combination of things. Life experience to know what needs to be done and when to ask for help. To know that there is a time and place for things. To have a life plan, goals and security set up for yourself. To have seen some form of adversity and have risen above it. I think those things and being able to understand and express yourself in a positive way really shows maturity.

Life experience can come quickly or slowly. It depends on the person. It is not really the age that matters. For instance. A 5 year old may have a very mature reaction to something. That was not a natural occurance in my opinon. It was the parents and what was taught to the child. How was that childs problem solving skills developed in the first place. As for the commentary about being funny or doing something percived by others as immature. Like I said, there is a time and a place for humor and downright sillyness. I belive maturity is understanding when that time and place is. Example. Person A is at a funeral and disagrees with how the funeral was done. They decide that after the funeral and approate grieving time, to possible question the person who set up the funeral. In a polite and calm manner. trying to see it from that persons perspective and understand the choices. (Mature way to do it)
Person B. Makes a scene is rude and is very disrespectful to fellow mourners. Then at the wake decides it would be a good idea to bad mouth the person who set the whole thing up. (Immature)
Both people were mad, but 1 decided that there was a time and place for the anger and delt with it properly. Thats the other fun thing about maturity. We all have diffrent views on what makes a person mature. Its why I love this question. By expressing what you find to be maturity, you inadvertantly express whats important to you in life. Mostly because its drilled in our heads that you should always be mature. Some people find that always being honest is a sign of maturity. Showing that the value honesty. Food for thought ^.^

Quote by Siafu

When maturity (their natural gift) is applied by said person of any given age, their maturity is evaluated by others and the inevitable outcome one desires is to be addressed or looked upon with respect in that you as a person elevated yourself above a situation that would normally be perceived as above your age or pay-grade sort-of-speak. Where in you are perceived by not only yourself as "mature" but also by the witnesses of your communication, actions or inaction's where the outcome is "respect."

Ok to help you understand what I said: "When maturity (their natural gift) is applied by said person of any given age, their maturity is evaluated by others and the inevitable outcome one desires is to be addressed or looked upon with respect..."

The outcome (of what you are doing) in so far as I can tell, is not to produce "respect" your desired outcome is to produce "Humor!" by way of acting silly. Humor is Humor and this is all together evaluated in a completely different way than when someone is being evaluated for...maturity. When someone acts like a baby during sex for example (this can arguably) be called immature behavior...I don't believe so....it's silly humor and has nothing to do with self-respect or the respect of your partner, someone who would do this is just being creative, thinking outside of the proverbial box...and it's funny.

If you are finding it hard to believe that your family and friends and therapist are all saying that you are mature and you don't want to believe them....then feel free to believe what you think you are. Frankly, I'm finding your communication over this point...rather mature...so now you have one more person who supports the evaluation....I'm sorry if you are somehow wanting that outcome to be different.

/wink :)

In my opinion, a unified approach seems to be the way to go. A strength of this group is the network; there's quite a few people in different guilds and games ..to me, this equates to stability. If one game folds, there's still a network. I think a unified social media presence will further enhance that strength.

As a new member, I personally don't mind getting feeds for other games/guilds. In fact, I'm a huge Star Trek Fan and never heard of STO..after reading some posts/feeds and doing a little research, I may be installing it when my addiction to gw2 wears down(not anytime soon).

I also see where others would be bothered by getting the news feeds of sister guilds; it could be disorganized for them. But I personally prefer a unified approach .

I wholeheartedly agree with one portal that encompasses all our groups I'm sure we can find a way to direct messages to the sections they pertain at some point if needed ... In Unity we find Strength

Now that we've announced the name of our combined community, we need to start working on our web presence and a big part of that is our social networking profiles. The recent downtime of our websites underscores the importance of having an external means to communicate with our membership.

Among the Officers, there does seem to be a bit of disconnect about how our social networking profiles should continue. Currently, we only have them for Stonewall Fleet (Facebook, Twitter, Google+), but we'd like to include all of our other guilds on these sites as well.

The big question is whether or not we should create new profiles (a separate Facebook fanpage, Twitter account, and Google+ page) for each guild or create unified profiles for our entire community (a Facebook fanpage, Twitter account and Google+ page) for the Stonewall Gaming Community.

There are many advantages to having a unified presence. First of all, it'd be less maintenance for us. Instead of having to create three new pages for each guild, we could just direct all of our members to the same pages. As well, when we have community wide messages, we wouldn't have to post them to 9+ different accounts. In the future, if there's ever another social networking site that we'd like to have a presence on, it would only compound this problem further.

The big disadvantage is that we'd be cluttering your activity stream with information for a game that you may not be involved in. Announcements for all of our games would be posted to these accounts. Whenever we were to post announcements for Stonewall Fleet, for example, those members that don't play Star Trek Online, would still receive them.

We'd really prefer a targeted solution, but the increased complexity of the alternative is a real issue. The last perk would be that it'd build up our unified community.

So what do all of you think?

Episode 724 - Enterprise - "The Aenar" - 02/11/2005

http://www.allstepisodes.com/megvid.php?n=5414

The drone Romulan ship that attacked the Andorians is under the control of an Aenar, an offshoot race of the Andorians. Archer and Shran join forces to rescue the Aenar and stop the Romulan plot.

Episode 725 - Enterprise - "Affliction" - 02/18/2005

http://www.allstepisodes.com/megvid.php?n=5415

Phlox is kidnapped by the Klingons who are seeking to cure a disease caused by an attempt to create Klingon/Augment hybrids; T'Pol's mental abilities grow after she conducts her first mind meld.

Enjoy!

http://www.treknews.net/2012/09/05/star-trek-tng-blu-ray-release-date-cover-art/

Just in time for xmas!

Quote by Angelsilhouette

If everyone around you respects you then you are rightfully perceived as being mature...when you do something that would cause people to speak badly of you for lack of respect then you have done something immature.

This doesn't quite follow. If your peer group is immature, then doing immature things will make them respect you. Likewise doing something mature, backing down from a completely avoidable fight for instance, might cause them to lose respect for you. "When did you become such a chicken$#!@?"

I don't think it's even about doing what's right; after all, there's a mature way to do what's right and an immature way to do it.

Perhaps it is consideration for others and empathy that makes up maturity. But if it was, doing things like pulling my shirt over my head and running around in circles until I fall down (for laughs, mind you) while making silly noises because I'm pretending to have Mad Cow disease wouldn't be immature so long as I wasn't being inconsiderate in the process. (But it kinda is immature.)

Maybe it is consideration, empathy, and being boring? :3

Competition is now closed for entries! Thank you to everyone who has taken part!

I will be posting up a voting thread over the next few days so keep an eye on the forums!

Quote by nniicc

In the AH window you can see the vendor price when you hover over the item, so you don't need to write things down.

God bless you...I didn't see that thanks for this time-saving tidbit. :)

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Moving on; I believe that, for the most part, I behave very maturely towards others. I also, however, believe that I am inwardly quite immature. I still look very young, still feel very young, still sound very young, and still have very immature thoughts and feelings.

So, most people I know (including my therapist) would insist that I am a very mature person; despite this, however, I must disagree. I do know myself better than they do, after all.

So what is maturity? Will I ever grow up on the inside? Will that make me mature? Has anyone ever really "grown up" on the inside?

Or is Mr. Spock a good example of maturity. Raging emotions at his core, but with complete control over what he expresses?

Being very youthful at heart by no means makes you immature....you missed the point. If everyone around you respects you then you are rightfully perceived as being mature...when you do something that would cause people to speak badly of you for lack of respect then you have done something immature. Thinking about robbing a bank doesn't make you a bank robber in the same respect feeling immature doesn't make a person immature as such...until you let it all hang out...then you get what you get.....labels...and not nice ones either. :)

At first i salvaged all blues and whites. I assumed i needed to do that to be able to craft. When i started crafting i noticed that the materials i was lacking (claws, scales, bone chips, venom sacs, totems, vials of blood) didn't come from salvage. When the trading post finally worked i noticed that ore, wood, ... isn't very expensive but the materials i am lacking are expensive.

So now i only salvage items marked as salvage. Greens, blues and whites are mostly vendor trash. I need the money to buy the rare materials on the AH. Before vendoring off a green i check the AH price. In the AH window you can see the vendor price when you hover over the item, so you don't need to write things down. The AH is available everywhere, so you only need to run to a trading post agent to pick up money or an item.

Because of the sales tax, the lowest selling price needs to be at least 15% higher than the vendor price to put it on offer at the AH. Otherwise you get more money by selling it to a vendor. Vendors are everywhere, you can even sell at a completed heart or a repair point.

Oddly enough almost all blue and green drops are sold on the AH for 1 copper more than their vendor price. This is the cheapest price at which you can put something on offer at the AH. That's a 15% loss to avoid having to run to a vendor. Most of the time hundreds of the same item are on offer a this vendor price plus one copper. So even if you put it on offer, i don't know if it would actually sell. The listing fee for unsold items is still 5%.

The crafted items on the other hand seem to be more rare. I've managed to sell several of them on the AH for a little more than the vendor price. Only a little more though. Crafting is and always will be a money drain. I like being able to craft my own gear though. Someone in guild chat showed me what my armour would look like if i got my crafting up to date. It looks better than the drops i'm wearing.

I don't know how the mystic forge works either. I put in some greens i couldn't use and got out a new green i couldn't use. Maybe the green i got was better than the greens i put in, i don't know. So i put the one i got from the forge in the guild bank, maybe it will be useful to someone else.