So I'm almost Level 15 in Beams so I'm doing a bit more research to decide what I want to use on my cruiser.

Damage Type	Proc 1	Proc 2
Retrofit Phaser	2.5% Chance: Disable 1 Subsystem	N/A
Tetryon	2.5% Chance: -X to all Shields	N/A
Destabilizing Tetryon	2.5% Chance: -X shield drain per sec for 15 sec	N/A
Polarized Tetryon	10% Chance: -X to all Shields	N/A
Phased Tetryon	2.5% Chance: -X to all Shields	2.5% Chance: Disable 1 Subsystem
Refracting Tetryon	2.5% Chance: -X to all Shields	2.5% Chance:X Tetryon Damage to the next nearest enemy target

The Phased Tetryon have the combined procs of Phaser and Tetryon so that might be good. I don't care for the Refecting Tetryon's secondary proc of damage to the next enemy cause that just looks like tons of agro. Polarized Tetryon kinda looks the nicest of all with a proc 4 times as often, but it's the bad proc everyone warns me about. Which do you all think would be the best?

The only thing I'm worried about is the weapon attributes. My current weapons are [Dmg]x3. Some of the above versions will be difficult to get the same attributes meaning I'll actually be decreasing my DPS. Do you think [Dmg]x3 is worth keeping? I've heard some people prefer [Acc]x3.

Thanks for you input!

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I wouldn't go all the way to outright say the Guardian isn't worth it, especially if you consider how early it is into the Delta (Up)Rising game. I bought the Delta pack not just for these ships, but because there are fleet versions of these ships just around the corner. It seemed more cost efficient to concentrate on the ship modules rather than buying each ship separately. So for me, it's too early to put a definite scarlet letter on any of the newer ships. I am in love with the Faeht for my Rommie, though. That is a certainty.

All in all however, I am still eyeing ships like the Odyssey in a T-5U version. But then I mostly pve. Keeping this in mind, I absolutely agree with Theodore that this "either/Or" mentality is absurd. It generally is nonsensical and only a seeding ground for arguments that take away from the enjoyment of the game. Everyone is going to like what they like no matter who says what about whom to who.

We did an Infected Space Advanced earlier (two high dps ships, one in the lower middle field and two low dps ships) and I can say that this ISA, compared to the one we did last week, was MUCH easier.

So, in my opinion, the NPC scaling worked.

And you have to consider that most of us haven´t upgraded all our weapons and consoles yet - which will take some time. But if this goal is accomplished then I think we won´t notice any difference between the old elite missions and the new advanced ones.

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P.S.: Azure Nebula Advanced is new, isn´t it? If I remember it right then there was only one difficulty level (normal) before DR?

I’m not 100% sold on the Guardian vs a 5U Odyssey.

The basics:
The Odyssey 5U has better shields and better hull, while the Guardian does have an edge on maneuverability. You’re still flying a space-whale, so the Odyssey wins here.

BOFFs:

Hard one here. The Odyssey has 12 BOFF abilities, while the Guardian has and extra LT. Comm ability giving it 13 plus the ability to use Intel. That gives the Guardian an initial advantage. However, the Odyssey can assign an Engi to the Lt. Com post, giving it 2x Lt Com Engi abilities, which is a big plus if you are doing a EptS-EptW juggling build. It then boils down to does the console make up for this? Play style would dictate most likely.

Consoles:

The 5U gets 11 slots to the Guardian’s 10, and add in that you are using the Universal in one of the slots, the Guardian is put at a deficit. If a Fleet version with a extra console slot shows up, this would change things.

Starship Trait:

Guardian has one, the Odyssey doesn’t. (Yeah, technically speaking, you could have both ships fully developed and use it on the Odyssey)


My net feeling is that the Guardian is not worth it it you are looking to upgrade from a Oddy 5U, but definitely worth the look if you didn’t have an Odyssey. The starship traits add an interesting aspect to the mix, getting the Guardian and Eclipse traits on an Odyssey could be quite yummy.

That would be so awesome, and all my freaking out about getting all my toons to 55 would mean significantly less! But that would be a good addition in my opinion, a lot of people have tried the game at this point, and a lot of people are eager to get to the new end game content, which has significantly improved over time. I think it'd be good for new players to the game, helping them feel like they can "catch up" to the more established players as well as the older players who have seen a lot of the 1-50 content before.

What do you all think about the NPC scaling?

Azure Nebula Rescue use to be one of my favorite missions, but on Advanced its almost impossible. You have to clear three groups in three minutes, but they've changed the mission so even the smallest groups have big enemies you have to fight. It's a bit frustrating.

There something to be said about Intell Boff powers tho. Override safeties + Beam Overload + Emergency power to Weapons + 3 Shield Penetraing Boff = Insta death. Subnucleonic Wave is an AOE Subnuc let that sink in. And Ionic Turbulence the wobble cloud...nuff said. I think there is a draw to the T-6 ships and there's a draw to the T-5U ships. I think the Guardian's console is most definitely giving the Odyssey a run for the staple Tank role. And the Dauntless is crap.

Here is my submission.

Finaly, I know my 5U Intrepid can run circles around my T6 ship

Yeah he's really great with sci builds and builds in general. No offense to Aikune and Milmar (Please don't hurt me!). I've tried recruiting him but he seems happy where he is in some random Fleet that's nowhere near as awesome as ours but c'est la vie. :)

I've yet to take the Scryer for a spin but I agree about the T6 ships. I've got 10+ toons and I'm not going to have all of them in these T6 ships, they just don't fit for some of them. I'm having great fun in the Dauntless but I do find myself missing my T5U Wells.

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Nick - Agreed! As an Engineer Circling like a vulture can be tedious. With my heals and buffs on rotation I need higher DPS to handle the Hull Strengths. I seldom lose shields and if I do I can get em right back. Then sit back and spend 5 minutes wiping out a NPC cruiser.

If they want to make the Elite and Advanced versions harder, they should give the enemies more DPS, not just more hull. More hull just makes it boring as hell and tedious. More DPS would mean you have to watch your healing and it wouldn't take for hell and ever. Hopefully this change will make Advanced less boring.

Space NPC ships level 50-60 have had their Hit Points reduced.
This change affects Space NPC ships in Normal and Advanced modes.

Goddamn mothershitfuckshit.

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Hey, I know TJ from tumblr! Small world. :) He definitely knows his stuff, and is a great guy to talk to.

This was great to see. Very insightful on what he has researched.

No argument from me obviously :D

But honestly the dauntless is really not a great ship the scryer out performs it as a science but i would take an upgraded wells/palisade or vesta over any T6 science atm.