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The Charter, under "Conduct and Violations" Section 2, states:

Reported Violations of the Code of Conduct or Community Guidelines will be investigated and processed by the Officers of SGN to determine their validity, extent and necessary penalty.

What policy will govern complaints or reported violations of the officers themselves?

They should be reported directly to me. I'll handle the issue and include the rest of the Officers when its appropriate.

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There are also two Section 3s in this area. The second Section 3 seems redundant.

Section 1 contains an incomplete sentence that sounds important: "All Violations of the Code of Conduct or Community Guidelines"

Thanks for point that out. I thought I had finished that sentence. Its mean to define what a Violation is.

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The Community Guidelines document needs to be fleshed out more with additional clarifications, in order to minimize the potential for vague statements to be interpreted in different ways. Consider adding examples (with a "these are just examples" disclaimer) to help members understand what's acceptable and what's not. Consider clarifying the drug and alcohol sentence; I think "casual vs. hard drugs" could be quite controversial. Same for "suitable situations" for profanity and "gratuitous discussion of adult activities." While it might not be possible to exactly nail these down, clarifying statements and examples could go a long way towards helping members understand your intent.

I don't want to get that specific with the guidelines for that very reason. There's too many possibilities and loop holes to draw exact examples. Instead, the next step will be training the leadership on exactly what should and shouldn't be moderated.

The Charter, under "Conduct and Violations" Section 2, states:

Reported Violations of the Code of Conduct or Community Guidelines will be investigated and processed by the Officers of SGN to determine their validity, extent and necessary penalty.

What policy will govern complaints or reported violations of the officers themselves?

There are also two Section 3s in this area. The second Section 3 seems redundant.

Section 1 contains an incomplete sentence that sounds important: "All Violations of the Code of Conduct or Community Guidelines"

The Code of Conduct seems pretty good to me.

The Community Guidelines document needs to be fleshed out more with additional clarifications, in order to minimize the potential for vague statements to be interpreted in different ways. Consider adding examples (with a "these are just examples" disclaimer) to help members understand what's acceptable and what's not. Consider clarifying the drug and alcohol sentence; I think "casual vs. hard drugs" could be quite controversial. Same for "suitable situations" for profanity and "gratuitous discussion of adult activities." While it might not be possible to exactly nail these down, clarifying statements and examples could go a long way towards helping members understand your intent.

I vote we find and resurrect Voleron from the grave and make him Chief. It worked out last time, lol. ;)

What I'd like to see is this list integrated with a marked-up quadrant/sector map so you can actually plan a route. The system names honestly don't convey a lot of useful info. I'm thinking assign each sector an XY coordinate, and add the patrol system's sector coordinate info as a cell in the spreadsheet.

Mini-example with the BETA Quadrant grid:

BETA-Y1
BETA-Y2
BETA-Y3
BETA-Y4
BETA-Y5
BETA-Y6
BETA-Y7
~~~~~~~BETA-X1 BETA-X2 BETA-X3 BETA-X4 BETA-X5 BETA-X6

So this means the Vulcan Sector would be located at BETA-X1Y3, Qo'noS Sector would be at BETA-X4Y6, Azure Sector (New Romulus) would be at BETA-X4Y4 and so forth. The same method would apply to the Alpha (shorter & wider) and Delta (single column) maps.

That way, you could sort the list by the sector coordinate column in the spreadsheet and plan a route: "I want to patrol in the Beta Quadrant from X1Y1 to X6Y1, then drop down and backtrack from X6Y2 to X1Y2" or whatever quadrant/routing is wanted.

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Point One: I think you typo'd your own handle in the charter. :P

I don't know how I managed that and how it went without notice until this point. Thanks for pointing it out.

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Point Two: This came up recently in fleet chat and while I can kind of see both sides of it, there seems to be a bit of a conflict. Someone (don't remember who) was annoyed at having a casual discussion of drag being shut down in chat as inappropriate. The (accurate) point was made that the Stonewall Riots were largely started by a group of drag queens and trans folks, so why was it an off-limits topic in a fleet bearing that name? IMO an LGBT fleet is going to be by definition at least semi-adult oriented.

Granted it's off-topic since it's not game-related, and unnecessary/gratuitous discussion of directly sexual topics is both unnecessary and inappropriate in an online gaming context, but any LGBT group shutting down discussion of a gender-fluid segment of the LGBT community (representing a big part of its history and culture) seems overzealous and wrong-headed.

To prevent such misunderstandings, maybe put in something about in-game chat being expected to be mostly game-related? Or to keep that kind of discussion primarily in the off-topic areas of the forums? I don't know what an equitable compromise on that sort of thing looks like, but I think there really should be one.

There's no issue with off-topic or non-game related topics in Fleet Chat. It's good for us to converse about non-game stuff, as well! We all know that STO or GW2 all have their slow periods and its important that we as a community have other topics to talk about than just those.

Drag isn't sexual. It's for entertainment and comedic purposes. I, personally, agree that such gender bending topics like trans issues or drag should be able to be talked about freely in a glbta community. (Albeit, we'd still need to stay clear of Transvestism.) This almost seems more like an opportunity to educate our community on gender than a need for moderation. This is also a great example of why we need to standardize and clarify our Community Guidelines.

Point One: I think you typo'd your own handle in the charter. :P

Point Two: This came up recently in fleet chat and while I can kind of see both sides of it, there seems to be a bit of a conflict. Someone (don't remember who) was annoyed at having a casual discussion of drag being shut down in chat as inappropriate. The (accurate) point was made that the Stonewall Riots were largely started by a group of drag queens and trans folks, so why was it an off-limits topic in a fleet bearing that name? IMO an LGBT fleet is going to be by definition at least semi-adult oriented.

Granted it's off-topic since it's not game-related, and unnecessary/gratuitous discussion of directly sexual topics is both unnecessary and inappropriate in an online gaming context, but any LGBT group shutting down discussion of a gender-fluid segment of the LGBT community (representing a big part of its history and culture) seems overzealous and wrong-headed.

To prevent such misunderstandings, maybe put in something about in-game chat being expected to be mostly game-related? Or to keep that kind of discussion primarily in the off-topic areas of the forums? I don't know what an equitable compromise on that sort of thing looks like, but I think there really should be one.

Our core documentation has needed an update for some time and I've finally sat down and hammered it out. After being reviewed by the leadership, I'd like to share it with all of the membership for you to review and comment on before making it official.

With this revamp, I wanted to go back to the basics and rebuild the core documentation and rethink its purpose. While it contained important information, the Member's Handbook never had a clear defined purpose. So I've decided to re-envision it as the Charter. The Charter is meant to be the central document, our Constitution, if you will, and the basis of how the community is ran and managed.

I've taken a pass at our Code of Conduct, also. The main changes I've made here are to remove the duplication of rules for the Forums, IRC/Fleet Chat and TeamSpeak and instead combined the rules together. As well, remove outdated or rarely used rules. To make it clearer, I've moved rules, like not withdrawing items from the bank to sell, from the Member's Handbook to the Code of Conduct where it really should be.

Finally, I've written the new Community Guidelines. Before now, we've had the often misunderstood "PG-13 Policy". These rules have never really been written down before. The American-centric term PG-13 made it difficult to understand for our non-American members and even within the US, PG-13 is a bit of a moving target. These new guidelines are meant to standardize what's appropriate for our community and our moderation efforts.

I'd love to hear what you all have to say about these new documents. If you see or have any problems, please feel free to reply below with what section that you think can be improved or what additions you'd like to see!

Thanks Lars, you dont need to create an account to download it :-)

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I have uploaded a downloadable version of the list for those that want it:
http://www.nexusmods.com/startrekonline/mods/1/?

You do need to make an account on that website to be able to download it, but it's all free.

That's pretty neat, but I never got into the Transformers. :P

Personally, I want a Fourth Doctor K-9 PC case.

As an accolade hunter this information would be very useful...

None tactical varient, i recall was the preferred option.

Not really if I remember correct. I think it's mainly a difference of the layout of the consoles. Since these are escorts I would go with the one that has the most science console slots, since fleet science consoles from the embassy can increase your resistance to damage and increase the damage that you do (if I remember correct).

@Aikune: Pilot ships might be better, but not everyone is going for the best ships in the game. Some people just like to play particular ships.

none of the above, Pilot Ships replaced the andorian ships

So i have all three of them for my tactical Andorian, and is there much difference between them, yes i know they have different console slots but i really dont know which if any is the "best" one.

soooo, is there much difference, anything better, err i dunno, what should i be asking taht i dont know enough to be asking?

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Higher wages needed, imo

I will pay you 1 EC/hour.

Woot! A raise!

The position comes with a Dabo table.

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Higher wages needed, imo

I will pay you 1 EC/hour.

Oh my, that made my naughty bits tingle :O

In my never-ending quest to buy a new computer, I came across a $3,500 computer case. That's right... no motherboard, no RAM, no video card... JUST the case. A case with LASERS and motorized transformation!! Anybody else want this beauty? Running out to buy my lottery ticket right now!

Higher wages needed, imo