I have perOrdered mine oh about a month ago.

Since the cancellation of Enterprise, there have been several half-baked efforts to bring Star Trek back to TV. However, one producer has what seems to be the most fleshed-out idea yet, and is preparing to pitch it to CBS.

David Foster Preparing to Pitch New 'Star Trek' Series

Thoughts? I like the idea that it will continue into the future of the current timeline. Don't get me wrong, I love JJ Abrams' film and interpretation of the TOS era, but a lot of the series' more interesting characters were introduced afterwards.

Too bad it will also likely invalidate STO's story. :P

Well....

After much trial and hardship and frustration I have finally obtained a viable pre-order code from Gamestop. I'm just going to vent a little bit here:

My boyfriend's best friend is a manager at Gamestop so I asked if he would pre-order the collectors edition for me and use his discount. I did not get the code from him for about 2 weeks because he was expecting it to be emailed to him when it had actually printed out on the receipt. When I finally got it, it and input it into the site; it only showed that I had the standard edition ordered so I had them generate another code for me. This one showed the CE was on pre-order but when I tried to complete the registration it said the code had already been used. The third code said the same thing. I found out from the forums that I wouldn't get any of the CE in game items until i input my actual game code from the CE box itself at launch and the it didn't matter what my pre-order code said I had so I went with my original code which worked.

I don't blame Gamestop for this, it was Bioware's fault not getting valid pre-order codes to them. I had tried emailing them but they just gave me the run-around.

But suffice to say I am now registered! Yay!

All the Doctors

I've been playing mmo's since 2003 and in each of them we only had flirts no romance.

As I've stated I'm disheartened that BioWare is only introducing ogra into the game and
for now excluding SGRA's. I'm hopeful that down the road this will change and I'll
get to participate in the romance arc as a gay man.
But if not I can pretend...isn't that what a lot of mmo's experience is about?
Pretending to be a frost mage that can freeze your enemy in their
tracks or a cleric that saves your companions from the death rift that just opened up.

As I get older I realize that things will change. Yes they are slow and gradual changes
but change eventually happens. Heck look at our community in the 70's and 80's
we've come forward by leaps on bounds.

So go to the SW:TOR forums, make a post under the topic (it's held in the general forums) and
vote on it. The thread has been re posted over 10 times now and about 95% of the posters
are for SGRA's. I visit it every day and if I can vote I do and I make a post. That is one
way to let BioWare know you are unhappy and hopefully this feature will be added down
the road if not by release.

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Although... If, for example, I were selected for beta and playing it had me really loving it; I may just go ahead and pre-order it.

Not saying I have or have not. Not sure if I'd be allowed to say if I were,
which I'm not confirming. >.>

That had me chuckling this morning. I think you can say your in Beta you
just can't give out details about the game and game play.
But I like your approach. :)

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Hmnn, I think for me its more important to be able to romance the gender I'm interested in, than play the same gender as myself. Unless there was a really cool companion, like Jack from ME2, she was friggen awesome!!

Well for me, the romance aspect of the game is minor. I'd rather enjoy the whole game as a female character than enjoy only the romance aspect as a male character. And to be honest, that might not even be guaranteed when it comes to me, lol. I rolled a male Shepard in ME2 after I finished with my femShep so I could romance Miranda and I ended up loathing him. My brain just kept going, "He's not the real Shepard! Quit hitting on Miranda!" Needless to say, he didn't make it very far.

Given that, my disappointment at the decision to exclude SGRAs isn't based so much on that fact that my character won't be able to romance her lady companions (which is ultimately in itself a minor complaint), but the fact that in creating hetero-only romance arcs, others are explicitly excluded.

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lol I considered playing a male toon for like, half a second. Then I remembered that every time I've tried playing a male toon in any game, I get bored with him in under an hour. All female toons for me, as usual.

Hmnn, I think for me its more important to be able to romance the gender I'm interested in, than play the same gender as myself. Unless there was a really cool companion, like Jack from ME2, she was friggen awesome!!

Episode 361 - Deep Space Nine - "Hippocratic Oath" - 10/16/1995

http://www.allstepisodes.com/megvid.php?n=3404

Bashir assists a rogue group of Jem'Hadar attempting to overcome their addiction to Ketracel White.

Enjoy!

Honestly, I can't see why they're including romance arcs into the game at all. It's a MMO after all, who wants to start a romance with a pre-programmed computer sprite instead of a real per-

Nevermind, I forgot the times in which we live.

But seriously, folks, change can't always happen overnight. Soon enough, being homosexual will be as (pardon the word) insignificant as being heterosexual. Something not worth mentioning because, well, who cares? TV and film characters will have same sex spouses and it won't be provocative. Video games will have romance arcs where the only controversial object of your romance will be a space ship or a car.

Then, maybe, someday in the future, we will see an Oriental (yeah I said Oriental, it's what me, my mother and my grandmother (GRHS) call ourselves. It's what a lot of Orientals call ourselves.) playing the lead in a TV show or film who isn't a martial artist or mathematician and he will be as accepted as a white or black man.

What? Oh come on, a guy can dream, can't he?

Been thinking of giving this a try and was wondering if anyone else has played? Curious to hear some feedback. :)

Sigh, almost equally disheartning is the silence of the press. Only very few websites even reported this. It seems making gay gaymers 2nd best isn't a news anymore.

You know, my friends, I spent the last 48 hours with little sleep, always going back to the official forum, waiting for a replay in the Dev Tracker... but dead silence. It felt terrible. Like the backstab from a friend. I can hardly say HOW hurt and disappointed I feel. I am still in denial, like, this can't be! It must be a small mistake! I yet don't really, emotionally accept, this is it.

But I can't play SWTOR like this. I just can not. I would feel the pain of betrayal every moment. Every time some straight romance arcs opens, I would feel the pain. I recall, when played Mass Effect, I was playing nice guy, and in the end EVERY female char was wanting to date me, even though I never gave them anything but friendliness. It was so depressing.

It breaks me in two to cancel the order. But I could not do otherwise. I would feel like cheating myself. It is so painful. :((

There's already another thread about this same topic in the Public Lounge so I'm gonna go ahead and lock this thread. To continue the conversation please see this thread.

Moderation Note
Hey guys, I know we're all very passionate about our gaming and that our community is treated equally, but let's also try to be respectful to one another in this thread.

Bah, romance is a device invented by bank managers to make us overdrawn.

Although... If, for example, I were selected for beta and playing it had me really loving it; I may just go ahead and pre-order it.

Not saying I have or have not. Not sure if I'd be allowed to say if I were, which I'm not confirming. >.>

I originally posted this on the Pre-Order thread in response to the SGRA news. I figured I would repost here as well.

As far as boycotting is concerned, I think it is a bit too early for that kind of thing until BW has some time to explain their reasoning. Both BW and EA have been big supporters of SGRAs in their product lines. It is also my understanding that Lucas was a big financial contributor against Prop 8*.

*(At the moment, this is hearsay until someone can provide source. I haven't had the time to dig through the interwebs looking for it.)

I don't think the companion romance arches add much to the game and I personally would rather have seen them removed all together. Unfortunately, doing so now would just cause an unnecessary outlash against the GLBT community and that doesn't do anything to help our cause.

My original post is below:

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It was very disappointing to hear but I don't play games to have virtual relationships so it wasn't much of a loss for me as far as content was concerned. What I found disheartening was the lack of equality.

I believe that we will see this added down the road though. Bioware has been made well area of the concern. It would be easy for them to add a couple of non-class specific companions to the game that you could acquire from side quests. The homophobic types could not complain because the companion would not be forced on them. They would have to go out of their way to obtain them.

I wonder if they are just using this as a scare tactic to get the people who have been putting it off...

I will take the optimistic approach and say they don't want to over invest in servers unless the demand calls for it. Then end up having to deal with server migrations a year later and take a major hit on hardware cost.

Although it is "limited", I doubt we will see it actually sell out before launch but that is just my personal opinion. I preordered mine on Day 1 so it doesn't effect me too much ;P

I've been putting off pre-ordering, myself. If there's not enough at the time I choose to lay my money down, well... C'est la guerre.

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Having had Druid in WoW and Science in STO i think I'll go for a Trooper in SWTOR.

Bored with healing. I want to kill stuff.

Yes! Boom boom pow! :D