I think that when the officer application process completes, a lot of the issues mentioned will go away...

At the moment, you don't see officers because there are only three split between three guilds, two factions and the site. At some point, they've got to be able to enjoy the game as well - I haven't seen officers been able to do this for a while. I'd burn out quickly if all I was able to do with administration and official functions.

The way to fix this is to appoint more officers - We all know this is in progress with applications closed.

I think there needs to be more patience for a few more days until officers are announced, promoted and start getting into the swing of doing their duties. Agitating and increasing the pressure on those few officers who are doing the hard work at the moment isn't going to be effective. Give the processes that have been implemented time to work.

A lot of that makes sense and I also think that when we start having our membership meetings that it will help a lot for people to know where officers stand and know they care. I've personally gone out of my way to contact the Officers (which I know others can do) to express my concerns and have never felt that they didn't care.

Either way thank you for helping me understand :)

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Anyway I just wanted to ask because I'm honestly confused and wanted clarification. Please don't think I want to start a fight or an argument my mom always said, "If you don't know ask" so that what I am doing.

I understand your not trying to be arugmenative, I'm in the same boat. But it seems that everything is always a "prove your point or it holds no meaning".

Having offices on gives a comfort level to the membership. Sorry this is just a fact.

The officers are the ones monitoring guild chat, answering questions from the guild membership, hosting guild events and every other thing an officer does in a guild.

If there are no officers on, who is going to handle these kind of functions? The captains? Is the membership suppose to handle these things?

What happens if we have another disruptive member in the guild and there are no officers on? What is the membership suppose to do? Sit there and take it while we wait for an officer? Oh I know...take a screen shot and then what? Please don't toss at me the "ignore them", I already have several guildies on ignore due to their posts in guild chat.

We will always have more members then officers or even captains but if you never see an officer log in or if they are only logging in for just a few minutes how is that supporting the membership or giving the membership some level of comfort that their is a leadership, direction and support?

Maybe all the above doesn't matter to the officers?

As always this is just my perception and opinion.

Any changes with it going FTP?

I love old educational films. :)

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I hope that the officers are selected for each side. Selecting offices who "sometimes" play on one side or the other is not going to work as they will rarely if ever log in and work with the guildies.

I'm curious so I'm posting because I need clarification. What would an officer being on and in the guild actually matter? I thought the big point behind being in a guild is the members and the unity. I keep hearing people mention that Officers need to be seen more but I'm really not sure how that affects what a guild is or how it is run (as long as they are doing the tasks they need when they are on).

There will always be way more captains/members than there are officers and I am really not sure the expectation that people are having. I know there was an opening process and they are going to be announcing officers but who knows out of those members who actually play from the Republic side or who play during what times. If there wasn't anyone who plays republic who offered I wouldn't think you'd deny others who are willing to assist with some of the menial tasks taking away from their game time. I know when I was a Guild Master I was just always thankful for help I honestly didn't care what time or whatever people played.

Sure people have left in a large guild this always happen. You have people leave and you have more join. It is a constant cycle that is actually one of the best benefits of being in a big guild.

Anyway I just wanted to ask because I'm honestly confused and wanted clarification. Please don't think I want to start a fight or an argument my mom always said, "If you don't know ask" so that what I am doing.

And there's this classic, I first saw in a freshman astronomy class:

Sort of a repost from another thread:



I told you I had to go, but would you listen?


(technically two screenshots)
Just hold still, I'm a trained doctor.



HI HO SILVER!



Why don't you come with me, little girl, on a magic billboard ride. (Sorry Foghat >.

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Here's my Jedi Consular Varel (Currently lvl 31)

I've noticed a major issue with his hair selection which I thought was super cute. I can't display most of the headpieces I get because for some reason his hair insists on displaying through the headpiece.

He's made a bit of progress though when he was only lvl 2 and living on Tython he looked like this.

Try being a hooded miraluka (hood option in character creation) and having a hooded robe... Your hood ALWAYS clips with the robe's hood and you can't put the hood down to get rid of the awful effect. (At least not in beta. I hope they've fixed it, by now.)

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"I was given something wonderful that changed me forever, a vision of the universe that tells us undeniably how tiny and insignificant and how rare and precious we all are. A vision that tells us that we belong to something greater than ourselves and that we are not, that none of us are alone." - Eleanor Arroway, Contact

For people whose parents never said to them, "The world doesn't revolve around you." or "Despite what you may think, you are not the centre of the universe."

I've seen that and things like it, before, as well as my favourite:

in_The_Hitchhiker%27s_Guide_to_the_Galaxy#Total_Perspective_Vortex]Total Perspective Vortex" in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. :p

That or they'd just be as useless at life as I am. :p

I hope that the officers are selected for each side. Selecting offices who "sometimes" play on one side or the other is not going to work as they will rarely if ever log in and work with the guildies.

At this point here are some interesting numbers about the guild membership in KoS

410 members listed
12+ lvl 1 and 2 toons
50+ folks who have not placed their names in the member note section as we've been asking folks to do for the past 2 weeks.

I did not count numbers beyond what I listed that is why I put + after the number.

I understand there is a carebear approach to guild members but at some point if folks are not going to help out the current leadership and do something as simple as place their name in the note section then they should be removed to make way for those willing to following instructions.

Again just my nickle and dime which I know means zippy.

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To be fair, there hasn't even been many officers up till now. So, my hats off to those that have been trying to shoulder the responsibility. The application period just ended and there should be some new officers promoted soon. Of course, they will need to meet and get up-to-speed on various things. But, I believe their promotions will help with at least some of the issues that have been occurring.

There are many things that need to be done. But we have to take them one step at a time. I still have faith that things will get better. :)

Believe me I do too. I joined this guild because of this forum site. It is such an open, honest and accepting community that I couldn't resist joining. I want all the best for this guild and I am here as a Captain to aid the current and new officers in this mission. There aren't many groups like this and I think the need for it in our community is pivotal. I am looking forward to all of the future guild get-togethers in game and hope until the official ones are planned we Captains and Officers can plan some unofficial ones to spark more community and guild unity.

One of my biggest problems with WoW for instance was that I could never find a guild I connected with and as a result never got to experience the deeper levels of the game which for me sucked. I am glad that I, and my other guild mates, will never have that problem in this guild. And I volunteer my services to anyone at any level, on the Republic server for now, to call on me for help with missions, datacrons, or just to chat. I know my fellow captains will say the same thing and I want all the members to know that we are all here for you split or no split. We are one guild on a mission to unity the galaxy through community.

-Kevin ~ Captain Xal Starlighter

To be fair, there hasn't even been many officers up till now. So, my hats off to those that have been trying to shoulder the responsibility. The application period just ended and there should be some new officers promoted soon. Of course, they will need to meet and get up-to-speed on various things. But, I believe their promotions will help with at least some of the issues that have been occurring.

There are many things that need to be done. But we have to take them one step at a time. I still have faith that things will get better. :)

Awesome vid! Always love watching that kind of stuff. "We are the only living things in the universe", lol yeah right.

Interesting how there are regions that were not even mapped yet. Wonder when we will be able too

Honestly I have to agree with Van. We may only need one 1 guild soon if not already due to the members leaving. However before we start kicking alts we should ask members to volunteer to take their unused alts out of the guild until so we can get a clear picture of how many members are actually active in the guild, and decide from there. It is awefully quiet and hard to tell who's on since few are using the shared chat other than regular members.

-Kevin

I play STO over here. Have not had the funds to invest in SWTOR yet, but I plan on trying out though. As Eurrsk said, the Doff system and the afoundry are what keep me coming back everyday (there are so many great missions on there). Anyway, always preferred Star Trek to Star Wars so STO will always be my main game I think (hey, maybe that will change when I get SWTOR lol).

Also, quick question for anyone who knows. Which of the jedi related classes in SWTOR is better (I know there are two of them, forgot the names)? What are the benefits of each one?

STO all the way for me! I'm on at least 5 or 6 days a week! I'm trying to get my MK XII Sets doing elite STFs. (They're tough as hell) Plus, the Doff System, Deferi Invasions, and the Foundry are way too addicting lol :D Yeah, a lot of things changed the past month, so it'd be nice to see some people come back and try out the new features. Skill system is much more balanced and makes more sense now, the fleet is growing at a rapid pace ^_^

I did try the Beta of SWTOR, and I do agree that the VO and visuals are phenomenal, but space combat was a joke, and even ground gameplay isn't as exciting for me as in STO. I love shooter mode in STO.

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"I was given something wonderful that changed me forever, a vision of the universe that tells us undeniably how tiny and insignificant and how rare and precious we all are. A vision that tells us that we belong to something greater than ourselves and that we are not, that none of us are alone." - Eleanor Arroway, Contact

What is the status on adding officers to the ranks in KoS?

I'm on nites from 530pm -10pm EST and I rarely if ever see an officer on. At this point it's just the captains taking the brunt of the work. There is little to no response from the guild management in game.

We have folks leaving the guild on a daily basis (2 last nite that I know of).

At this rate we will not need two guilds since the membership has dwindled down. If need be kick some of those who have decided to not keep their accounts active and those lvl 1's that have been sitting there.

I understand the O's have "stuff" on their plates right now but it would be nice to hear from the officers in game. And I don't mean logging into KoS for 10 min once a week just to say hi.

Theodin can always come. We can turn the group into an Op. group and add a bunch of guildies if there is the demand to go.