Thanks, SiranNataan!

Nova, care to describe what you think is unrealistic or hackneyed? I'm certainly up for specific constructive criticism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Sue

You are a very talented writer!

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Don't worry! They'll integrate the Foundry soon enough and then our Starbase(s) interiors will be amazing!

Yeah. Like they didn't say the same thing about starship interiors four seasons ago. :whistle: :)

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No drama intended. :) Just trying to understand.

Of course. :) Hope I could explain it a bit.

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Tumerboy just confirmed that the interiors won't change with different tiers. :( Meh, somehow those lazy lower deck levels are really frustrating. Usually I'm not that negative with Cryptic but that somehow crosses a line for me.

Don't worry! They'll integrate the Foundry soon enough and then our Starbase(s) interiors will be amazing!

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I do, others might not. And there is a difference in being part of the "gay community" or being referred to as "gays".

Don't need any drama about it and I'm also not picking a fight here - just pointing out that issues like that have been brought to attention in the last couple of weeks and it might not be the most considerate wording in light of these discussions.

No drama intended. :) Just trying to understand.

Tumerboy just confirmed that the interiors won't change with different tiers. :( Meh, somehow those lazy lower deck levels are really frustrating. Usually I'm not that negative with Cryptic but that somehow crosses a line for me.

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Do you not consider yourself part of the gay community?

I do, others might not. And there is a difference in being part of the "gay community" or being referred to as "gays".

Don't need any drama about it and I'm also not picking a fight here - just pointing out that issues like that have been brought to attention in the last couple of weeks and it might not be the most considerate wording in light of these discussions.

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I'm also not too thrilled about the Stonewall Fleet's name ("Gays in Space"), TBH. Especially with all the discussions about inclusiveness we had going on recently. :dry:

Do you not consider yourself part of the gay community?

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I can't really remember a single update/Tribble test over the past two years were this sentiment was ever true.

It would be cool with me, if these interiors were just for testing purposes. But usually with Tribble it's "what you see is what you get" - especially cosmetic- and design-wise.

There's a slim chance that only the Tier 0 interiors look that amateurish. If that's not the case, I will be fussy - some of the areas are straight copies from some very early missions. People could come up with more sensible and aesthetic designs in the Foundry and I'd expect some more love for detail from the same guys who made some very awesome maps in recent releases (TOS & Belfast interior, revamped parts of DS9, Facility 4029, Utopia Planitia).

I'm just saying: Now might still be enough time to make some noise so the devs will work on custom Starbase interiors. Once this is live, it will stay this way - ship interiors have pretty much proven this.

I'm gonna bet what's on Tribble is what will be on Holodeck at launch. I was a bit disappointed that the only unique map is the Ops level, but I think they were wanting to save the development time for other things. One of the Deves said that the next Foundry push will include more projects that unlock more decorative objects, hopefully, filling up the ops level a bit. They've said we'll be able to create our own maps with the Foundry eventually and I bet that's what they're waiting on to do neat things with the interiors. Hopefully then, they'll put some real development time into creating very Trek assets.

I just wanted to let everyone know that I added KoS and LoS to the SWTOR forum's guild recruitment area. It was nothing fancy, and mostly direct information copied from our website. Let me know what you think. The individual postings were direct copies from the guild list postings, but figured we should have our own threads in the Guild Recruitment areas. I tried to do it in the mindset of simple posting, nothing flashy and "OMG MOAR PPL!," and just letting people know we're on the server and that they'd be more than welcome if they so wish to join. Any suggestions for me improving those postings would be great. And I'd encourage anyone who wanted to put a few thoughts, feelings, etc. about their good times with Stonewall as a nice bump.

Guild list (I put both KoS and LoS in the list):
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=210889&page=4

Knights of Stonewall individual posting:
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=490516

Lords of Stonewall individual posting:
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=490517

I can't really remember a single update/Tribble test over the past two years were this sentiment was ever true.

It would be cool with me, if these interiors were just for testing purposes. But usually with Tribble it's "what you see is what you get" - especially cosmetic- and design-wise.

There's a slim chance that only the Tier 0 interiors look that amateurish. If that's not the case, I will be fussy - some of the areas are straight copies from some very early missions. People could come up with more sensible and aesthetic designs in the Foundry and I'd expect some more love for detail from the same guys who made some very awesome maps in recent releases (TOS & Belfast interior, revamped parts of DS9, Facility 4029, Utopia Planitia).

I'm just saying: Now might still be enough time to make some noise so the devs will work on custom Starbase interiors. Once this is live, it will stay this way - ship interiors have pretty much proven this.

I won't be too fussy about the interior that comes with the initial release. It's obvious they're mainly worried about the mechanics at the moment, with a graphics+customization upgrade to come. Those seem like sensible priorities to me.

I joined the official Tribble Fleet for now (Cryptic Tribbles). I have a feeling I might get to test some of the Starbase stuff there earlier than with the Stonewall Fleet.

I'm also not too thrilled about the Stonewall Fleet's name ("Gays in Space"), TBH. Especially with all the discussions about inclusiveness we had going on recently. :dry:

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For now, I have to say I'm really dissapointed by the Starbase's interior. The OPS level looks somewhat good (although a bit silly at Tier 0). The lower levels (Engineering, Science, Tactical) are on par with the Season 2 ship interiors - and that's not a good thing at all. They are everything but creative and sleek. And I really had hopes we were past those designs...

Episode 652 - Enterprise - "Rogue Planet" - 03/20/2002

http://www.allstepisodes.com/megvid.php?n=5118

Enterprise finds a sunless solitary planet with a small group of Eska who are hunting wraiths, an indigenous telepathic shapeshifting species.

Enjoy!

Awesome. I'm surprised this video hasn't been posted before. His story is amazingly touching and it needs to be told!

I've certainly come across gay men who belittle other gay men with a feminine nature.

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Maybe it glitched then, but I was walking around on it while all the Tier I projects were still in progress or not started yet.

Nope, not a glitch, I was wrong! Halish corrected me. :P

You can access the starbase by going to Eta Eridani Sector Block. You'll find a system call Federation Fleet System and a large mass of ships around it. If you go to it, I'll give you the option to "Approach Fleet Starbase". You can even dock and run around on it! There's currently not much to do on it, but you can look at the Ops, Science, Engineering and Tactical levels!

It's probably length in centimeters. Which means that the average French penis is about 6.3 inches in length.

Maybe it glitched then, but I was walking around on it while all the Tier I projects were still in progress or not started yet.

Judging by that map, Luxembourg doesn't have men with penises :P

(Luxembourg is that little white blob between Netherlands, Belgium, Germany and France)

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so the fleet on Tribble is called?? i am asking just cause i wanna be sure I joined the right fleet :)

Gays in Space, ofc!