Well aside from the shady stuff where else can I buy some of that underwear for the bf and I?? =P

I had no idea Andrew Christian had such a reputation but I guess if you run your company like a porn production house you get used to shadiness and vapid vulgarity. But I will admit that the aforementioned eye candy is quite a mitigating factor.
As for that kid he's either a well payed spokesperson, naively unaware of his organizations dubious status or working a really good PR angle which will help boost him toward the goal of being the "Gay Oprah."
I don't frequent WeHo too much but a good-sized chunk of the social scene (specifically in the bars and clubs) don't really seem to get how much activism went in to creating that community which has one of the highest overall property values in Los Angeles County.

A friend on facebook posted this "article" about an Andrew Christian model that the author refers as a "role model". For those who don't know, Andrew Christian is an underwear label based in West Hollywood. Their design and advertisement is essentially soft-core porn and only marketable to gay men. Most professionals I know who have had dealings with them have nothing positive to say except to point out the pretty (but utterly unapproachable) eye-candy.

The company mentioned, Full Frontal Freedom, has no record of existence according to the IRS, with no clear use of its donations. I worked for them shortly for web design and they were utterly unprofessional. This aside, the idea that anyone -even in this sham of an article- would refer to this guy as a role model is short sided and dangerous.

So many wonderful examples of people that are doing great things; either directly as advocates or by example by being open, educated, productive individuals. So far this kid's career has consisted of him taking nearly-naked pictures. [strike]Andrew Christian models are notorious in LA for a lifestyle that is entirely meaningless and physically dangerous. The worst personification of West Hollywood one could picture.[/strike]

Edit: Andrew Christian, its models, and business practices have garnered concern from other businesses and advocacy groups in LA. Personal dealings with a couple of their models who have issues with honesty about their health status have also caused problems among mutual friends; generally fitting into trends of increasing HIV infection rates among young gay men in West Hollywwod as reported by AHF-they are not exclusively a problem.

I do believe that there are those that, in spite of work necessities like this, could rise above and use the money gained to pay for an education and such. In general though the ratio of success is extremely low. We already live in a sex-obsessed lifestyle and do give a bit of a pass to those we find attractive without any other evaluation. I just don't want to see young men trying to embrace the gay community in THIS way. So to those who are curious, read the article and even look up Full Frontal. I warn you though to think critically about what it is and not take it at face value. I.E. don't fall for the eye-candy.

One of the models featured has a pretty monstrous reputation in Southern California already, I'd hate to think that anyone would look at this as a proper role model of any kind.

http://revolutionarygaymagazine.tumblr.com/post/41282807563/americas-next-top-role-model-who-colby-melvin-really

Yea the air bundles with the cruise lines suck pretty bad - Its bets to domply go online to your favorite resource, you will find much better rates. As for Wi-Fi costs it depends on the amount of time you want to purchase. I suggest getting minute bundles as that is the more cost effective option versus paying by the per minute use.

Is WiFi expensive on cruises? I also tried looking on the Royal Caribbean site and couldn't find an options for discounting airfare if you bundle.

In 2001, 2002, I would play the game of popping random adjectives and nouns into Google followed by .com--purple.com, annoying.com, teddybear.com, you get the idea. One day I got up the courage--and I was shaking like a leaf--to enter gay.com. Understand I was in the school computer labs, I was still in ex-gay therapy, and I was terrified someone I knew would see me. Also understand that I had absolutely no idea what I would get when I typed gay.com.

After hits and misses, I found a bit of a home for myself in the Christian and Intellectual rooms. Some of those guys gave me the courage to make the first most tentative steps to come out. Fast-forward just a few years and the environment was absolutely nothing like that. (A couple of years ago, in a bout of severe depression and loneliness, I entered my local room just to have someone to talk to, and was run out with claims that I was a mean, arrogant person and that I was lying about being from Minneapolis.) But had it not been what it was when it was, over a decade ago, it's possible that my life would have gone far, far worse.

LOL I used to volunteer for PNO at prides up and down Ca. I'm sorry to see gay.com make this decision as I used to really enjoy the chat rooms and speaking with people from areas other then my own. I hate being location bracketed, I don't use gay.com or grindr to hookup I really just want to chit chat with people.

I remember the days when Planetout was the go to place, then it was Gay.com. In my area gay.com died here just after they changed the layout of the chat rooms, no one was happy. Looks like another mistake in a string of mistakes for them. I'm sad gay. is I met my boyfriend.

First I'll say that my passion is technology and all that that entails. Of course things change, sometimes drastically at the blink of an eye. However, a particular site has made a recent change that has left me disqusted for lack of a better term.

This morning when I attempted to log onto the lifestyle website of gay.com through a program called Morar Chat, it wouldn't connect. So, I navigated to the site www.gay.com only to find that the site has been completely changed. In this change, they have completely removed the chat rooms. It now appears that the site is trying to compete with other services that focus on location-based "whatever". They don't realize that others have been doing it longer and probably do it better.

I started using the site many years ago mostly to chat with people. I realize that non-location based chat rooms are kin to ancient, dusty tombs. But, I was able to meet wonderful people through those chat rooms. Often, I've chatted with people from all over the world that shared similar interests and it's actually where I met my fiancee.

I completely understand that that environment had many issues, not the least of which being legal. However, certain changes could have been made to curtail the majority of that. Those rooms provided a forum for various parts of the GLBT community. They provided a safe environment for those of our kind to communicate with others.

Perhaps I'm a relic. Perhaps I just want to cling to a highly outdated era where the Internet provided ways to connect with people that went much deeper than a random one night encounter. Perhaps I'm in the wrong field altogether.

/rantoff

OPTION 1!

Good to know, i can switch over to my consular any time your on if you want help doing it.

that's it... lvl 50. Guess it's time I start trying to get hk

Until we decide on a date which will be after March 15th what I have given so far is the info you have

I am for both the first 2 options as they have multiple ports of call with fun stuff to do. As for the room, not an issue with me as I like the inside as the hum lets you sleep better. What other add-ons can we get? When I went for a company outing last year, they got the cheap rooms, but got the alcohol included in the package. That way you saved your on board account from breaking the bank.

Any way of doing that?

The voice over commentary is in German but this is a pretty awesome gameplay video:



Shows some of the character creation and some dungeon stuff.

thanks guys, the reason i asked is because, i have exhausted STO, i have completed this game along time ago and i dont feel there is enough new or going on to keep me interested,

SWTOR i just cant get into, i log into GW2 now and then but its kinda boring to me lol, and i enjoy the secret world but noone hardly plays it in Stonewall, i actually prefer aion than all of the above lol, i have many high characters and there is alot to do.

So although i have joined stonewall, there isnt really much i like to play that guild members enjoy:( which is a real shame, i thought i found the ultimate guild :D which i have been searching for for years.

also LOTRO i loved it until it went free to play, graphics are real nice thats about it lol.

oh well :D thanks for getting back to me!

Paul
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Bummer. I'm still in school until the 21st. Doubt the principal would like me taking off just before break.

I'm stretched thin in the MMO department AND the non MMO department, for MMO's I play WoW, STO, SWTOR, and TSW. Finding time for all of those is rather difficult with my FM13, CK2, Sins, and Warlock obsession ;)

Personally I am happy just sticking to STO, LOTRO, TSW and the occasional foray into SWTOR or GW2 if I need something new.

Actually running out of time to be able to fit any others in especially if a payment is required for play.

After you caught me in game I tried out parts 1 and 2 and am seriously impressed so far.

Well worth a go if you have time to spare.