Whittier Strong

SiranNataan

STO forum mods are apparently cool with people saying 'tranny'

May 22 2014
There is also the fact that this is also an LGBTQ community--NOT just a gay community. An LGBTQ community should be able to accommodate every letter of the "alphabet", not just abide by the norms and whims of the most dominant "letter".

Thanks for speaking up. I'm not on STO much these days--I'm immersed in DC Universe Online, where, sadly, it's very hard to join a guild without encountering homophobic speech as the norm. But the various Stonewall guilds are, whether we like it or not, amongst the standard-bearers for LGBTQ guilds in the gaming world. Let's keep working to set a positive example.
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Volkrov (Eurrsk) Ruk

Eurrsk

STO forum mods are apparently cool with people saying 'tranny'

May 22 2014
I'm sorry, Kimmy. :( *huge hugs*

Highlighting the moderator's words:
"Alright folks, I've cleaned this thread up of posts that are derailing this thread.

Before I state this thread needs to get back on topic let me say something -

I understand completely and sympathize with transgender folks that have been abused, beaten and other unspeakable actions and been called names because of who they are. That said, I have to look at this thread objectively not just based on my own views on things. The OP and the people that have replied are obviously not trying to insult or make fun of transgendered people. If they were, I would have instantly removed all references, issued warnings and most likely requested a ban be placed.

However, even I call transphasic gear - tranny torps or trans torps etc. It's not because I'm insensitive, it's not because I don't think about transgender rights or their struggle, it's because it's simpler to say. Again, I understand those that have a strong hate for the word but if I censor every word people find offensive the forums would be a very very barren place.

I appreciate those that also ignored posts and reported them to us and just tried to keep the thread going It's why I've let this thread continue on."
- Askray


I respectfully understand that Askray was trying to keep the thread on topic and his said sympathy towards the LGBT community, but he does still seemed rather ignorant about the offense with the allowed continuation of the phrase. The word is still offensive nevertheless. :(

Putting things into perspective, STO is a gaming community, and LGBTQA awareness isn't always within the mindset of everyone on the forums unfortunately. People want to play and have fun. However, this is also Star Trek, which is known for its progressive undertaking of acceptance and open-minded respect for diversity. The LGBTQA community definitely is a large part of this and should be recognized. Such acknowledgement and public education on our current social circumstances today would hopefully help reduce further microagressions and ensure a more friendly environment for everyone. It's unfortunate he had to delete those posts.

Overall, I'd like to thank you for speaking up, as well thoroughly explaining to them in your message to them. I really do hope they acknowledge your words, and hopefully change the name of the forum title! Was thinking maybe "Trans torpedo boat" would work?

*huge hug squeezes*
- Eurrsk :)
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Edited May 24 2014 by Eurrsk
Kidd Kasper

kiddkasper

Federal Judge Lifts Gay Marriage Ban in Pennsylvania!!!!!!

May 22 2014
Congrats!
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Kimmy De Winter

kimmissar

STO forum mods are apparently cool with people saying 'tranny'

May 22 2014
So someone in the STO forums made a thread about STO ships that use transphasic torpedoes, the user called them 'tranny boats'. Of course that word is a slur and is completely unacceptable. Someone on page 2 spoke out against it, but swiftly got swamped by people who felt cutting one word out of their vocabulary would just make life feel empty and meaningless. I made a post and thanked the person for standing up for trans people.

Later another person joined in, developed a dialogue with one or two, and convinced them not to use the word anymore. Suddenly a forum mod swoops in, deletes any posts calling out the use of the word, says it's ok to say 'tranny' and even admits that he uses it himself regularly.

I'm feeling so frustrated right now. Of course they don't mind the use of the word, they're not the ones targeted by it. Anything I say won't make a bit of difference coz they'll write me off as oversensitive(while they are the ones who feel super slighted by being asked to pass on using one single word). Plus it'll just get me a ban by the mod.
Being in the right means bugger all when you're only .2% of society, and it makes you feel so very powerless. It's not just this thread that gets to me like this by the way, I run into this stuff every bloody day in offline life. I just didn't expect it from a moderator, on a Star Trek forums no less.

Anyway I sent this ticket to support:
"Dear Sir/Madam

In a thread on the STO forums (http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=1111751&page=6), a moderator defended and enabled the repeated usage of a slur. Even the title of the thread itself contains one.

The word 'tranny' has long been a very damaging and offensive word brought to bear against the transgender community. Users in this thread thought they could get away with their cheeky use of it by stating that they simply use it as an abbreviation of 'transphasic'. Of course, if a certain in-game word could be shortened into the n-word, that wouldn't have justified using the n-word, would it?

Multiple people in the thread called out the usage of the word, in polite and respectful ways, and a dialogue even arose that furthered understanding. People seemed to have come to an agreement not to use the word anymore, and then a moderator(askray) jumped in. The moderator deleted all posts that denounced the use of the slur, excused it's use, and even admitted using it himself. This is of course unacceptable, and puts the game and it's owners in a very bad light.

I'd ask you to remove this moderators endorsement of the usage of slurs, and to ask thread users to refrain from using the word any further. That would also remove the need for any further posts on the matter(which'd only derail the thread).

I and friends of mine have had the t-word flung at us many times, often when in danger of violence. It brings up very negative associations for us, and other people in my LGBT fleet were also greatly bothered by the thread. Most non-LGBT people in the thread including the moderator did not seem too bothered, but then they've never been on the receiving end of the word. However, I think whether the usage of a slur is improper is best determined by those targeted by it, wouldn't you agree?

I hope you can do something about this, and make this game's community welcoming to people from all walks of life. After all, isn't diversity what Star Trek is all about?

Kind regards,
Kim
"

I already know it's gonna do bugger all, but it's all I could think of. Anyone else got any advice? Sorry for the rant, just frustrated this shit keeps happening everywhere I go.
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Ben

Gravity

PVP LIVESTREAM TUTORIAL #4 - SCIENCE SHIPS: QUICK AND SMART - 5/24/14

May 22 2014
I am gutted I will miss this if there is one area I'm decent on it is science ships :p

Also if you mention beams in the last section there aikune I will find you and kill you :p
David

Keioel

GAUNTLET

May 22 2014
September 3rd...Are we steam friends? Cause if not we should be, I'm thinking of trying Elf this time, if not my old standby of wizard....Steam have the video up in their store. SO EXCITED!!
Volkrov (Eurrsk) Ruk

Eurrsk

GAUNTLET

May 22 2014
Dude! omg that game was so fun to play! :D Loved playing it with a full team of friends back then! :D
Pnutt Buttah

pnuttbuttah

GAUNTLET

May 22 2014
WHAT WHAT WHAT?!
Tsar Agus

WhiteOnmyoji

5th Annual Las Vegas Star Trek Convention Meetup

May 22 2014
Aikune's Preference of Deadly Sins

Sloth - 79%
Gluttony - 10%
Lust - 4%
Greed - 2%
Pride - 2%
Wrath - 2%
Envy - 1%

So uhm yeah...
Sej @Ereiid

Ereiid

5th Annual Las Vegas Star Trek Convention Meetup

May 22 2014
While a lovely idea - I expect the neverending pizza party will be detrimental to a restful sleep.
Tsar Agus

WhiteOnmyoji

PVP LIVESTREAM TUTORIAL #4 - SCIENCE SHIPS: QUICK AND SMART - 5/24/14

May 21 2014
**REMINDER**

High Shields, OK Hull and 6 weapon slots. Science ships are some of the most versatile and utilitarian ships in Star Trek: Online and in the Trek universe as a whole. Remember what Voyager was able to do in the Delta Quadrant. But just how do you use if effectively in PvP OR PvE? Join us on Saturday May 24th at 8:00 PM Eastern Time and learn about Science Ships.

Topics Covered:
*Controll
*Drain
*Heal
*The Dyson Science Destroyers
*Vesta Multi-Mission Explorers

During the hour we'll also be giving away a prize(s?). We will have a scaling prize system where the more participant there is in the event the higher quality the Prize/Packs will be.


The Livestreams will be done every other weeks and will cover a variety of PvP topics
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David

Keioel

GAUNTLET

May 21 2014
is coming!! So excited, I LOVED this game in the arcades
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David

Keioel

WildStar Online

May 21 2014
Are we gonna have a guild?
Kidd Kasper

kiddkasper

Federal Judge Lifts Gay Marriage Ban in Pennsylvania!!!!!!

May 21 2014
Of course every state is different. But it is upto the attorney general in each state to defend any state law. If the attorney general won't defend it or appeal the decision, then it's effectively ended.

And they're dropping like dominoes...Arkansas, Oregon, Pennsylvania.

Who's next?
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Dave (Voleron)

Voleron

5th Annual Las Vegas Star Trek Convention Meetup

May 21 2014
Cool! Would be awesome to see you at the party!

Sej @Ereiid

Ereiid

5th Annual Las Vegas Star Trek Convention Meetup

May 21 2014
Well, the good news is I'm cleared for my reimbursements for the last huge conference weekend. (Goddamn that was pricey)

Still have to book my own conference air and hotel for June, so still a work in progress, y'all.
Antonio V

Vidannotaredshirt79

Federal Judge Lifts Gay Marriage Ban in Pennsylvania!!!!!!

May 21 2014
Hopefully the Governor lets it stand.

"Attorney General Kathleen Kane earlier made her own definitive statement, saying she will "not ... defend Pennsylvania's Defense of Marriage Act because I made a legal determination as to the unconstitutionality of this law.""

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/20/us/pennsylvania-same-sex-marriage/
Jd6885

jd6885

PvP QnA

May 21 2014
I have a Fed/Rom Sci captain, Silas, who is tear 3ish on romulan/omega/nukara rep. He has both time ships and some blue consoles and weapons.

I've never gone the science route before and I need advice on how to build and spec a good pvp ship using the romulan version of the Wells.
Tsar Agus

WhiteOnmyoji

5th Annual Las Vegas Star Trek Convention Meetup

May 20 2014
Arrive 11:46 on 7/30
Leave 11:10 on 8/4